Logitech G25 Racing Wheel Review

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(More customer reviews)I'm not an eloquent guy, and certainly not a frequent Amazon reviewer, but I just thought I'd clear up questions if anyone else is in the same boat I was (PS3 owner looking for a wheel).

I love driving sims for PS2, and thought the G25 would be a great way to get my dad to play some games too. I wasn't sure how the G25 would work with the PS3, but lo, it's flawless. Hooked up via USB, the wheel can fully mimic the function of the Driving Force Pro, so Gran Turismo and ToCA give you everything they've got. It also has a lot of future potential with the Gated gearbox and clutch-pedal that most current games don't use. The only reason you might keep a sixaxis handy is for the "home" button to quit to the XMB (ps3 OS).

"Feedback" is an understatement, as the word makes me think of the N64 rumble-pack. Most of you potential buyers are already aware of the wheel pulling you out of turns, or giving enough feedback so you know just when you're about to lose grip through a corner. But the G25 can be so subtle that it almost creates a "3D" feedback map. I'm not sure how to explain it, but when your in-game left rear tire hits a rumble strip, it feel like that specific tire has really hit a rumble strip. I have no idea how they do this with just two force motors in the G25.

In any event, the quality of the road-response is absolutely worth the price, which is already pretty decent here with free shipping. The DFP was tempting, as I've tried it on a PS2, but this wheel is much more subtle, much better looking, and will be the gold-standard for future driving games. No regrets here, just a happy father-son bonding experience and less wear on our real-world cars.

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Product Description:
Real metal. Real leather. Real racing. Premium materials. Hand-crafted components. A team of racing fanatics dedicated to providing the most realistic driving experience possible. With the G25 Racing Wheel, Logitech is taking sim racing controls to the next level, and we'd like you to come along for the ride.The G25's unique dual-motor force feedback transmission delivers powerful, high-fidelity force effects to the hand-stitched leather wheel, so you can feel under-and oversteer before you're on the barrier.

Sit down, turn off the lights, and crank up the sound. You're not playing games anymore; with the G25, you're racing.


Features:

Six-speed shifter with push-down reverse gear
Choose exactly the right gear for the turn. Plus a leather-wrapped shift knob so you can drive in style! Sequential shift mode
Provides backward compatibility. Logitech's exclusive carpet grip system
Holds fast to the carpet to provide a realistic driving experience. Dual-motor force feedback
The mechanism is smooth, quiet, and powerful. Stainless steel gas, brake, and clutch pedals
Eliminates flex from the pedals, so you can brake and accelerate with more precision. The clutch pedal makes heel-and-toe downshifting possible, keeping your gear changes quick and your RPMs high. 11" leather-wrapped steering wheel rim
With the 900-degree wheel rotation and hand-stitched leather, the wheel providesa realistic driving experience.
System Requirements:

PC with Pentium processor or compatible
256 MB RAM
20 MB of available hard disk space
CD-ROM drive
USB port
Windows XP or Windows Vista

or

PlayStation 2 or PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system
Games that support Logitech Force Feedback

Package Contents:

Logitech G25 Racing Wheel (steering wheel)
Shifter module
Gas, brake, and clutch pedals
Power supply
Software CD-ROM
User documentation
1-year limited warranty

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Logitech G27 Racing Wheel Review

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(More customer reviews)I had the privilege of owning its predecessor several years ago, the G25, so I knew mostly what to expect with this new G27, but I was still expecting so much more from Logitech. The expression "Logitech giveth and Logitech taketh away" seems most pertinent.

So, let's start:

Opening the box and getting everything out is very simple. All the parts are well designed, but you're immediately greeted with what I think is the biggest issue with the G25/27 set, - the cables. So many cables! 400 cables! (at least it feels like it)

The wheel has a cable coming out of it that goes into your PS3; the pedals have a cable coming out of it; the shifter has a cable coming out of it, and then there's the power brick that has a cable to be plugged in. All these cables plug into the wheel itself, and it's definitely not a pretty sight. I don't know about other people, but I don't have a place where I can leave my steering wheel/shifter/pedals plugged in 24/7, so setting all this up and putting it away again is a COMPLETE pain in the rear.

Putting the cable issue aside, there's a lot to like with the G27. It's an improvement over the G25 in many ways:

1.) The G27 wheel uses helical gears (or diagonal-cut gears) vs the G25's straight-cut gears. What this means is that there's a reduction in noise when turning the wheel, and it's also smoother while maintaing powerful force feedback! Great stuff!

2.) The shifter on the G27 no longer has a sequential mode (i.e. clicks up and down only), which is no big loss to me. I prefer either the regular 6-speed or using the paddle shifts on the wheel. While it may seem that this is still a LOSS compared to the G25's 6-speed AND sequential shifting, the new addition to the G27 is that the gears don't CLICK into place. On the G25, every gear change would greet you with a CLICK as the gear was put into place. Logitech have removed this sound so the gear movements don't hurt your ears with their plastic sounds as the G25 did. Now, some people have modified their G25 shifters to remove this sound, but it voids your warranty and I've read of several people irreparably breaking their shifters by doing this... In any case, for me, the G27 shifter is an improvement over the out-of-the-box G25 shifter.

3.) The pedals are now adjustable, which makes it a joy to heel-and-toe while racing. The pedal layout is a huge deal more comfortable than on the G25 pedals. This, for me, is a huge improvement. My right foot would get very uncomfortable with the G25 layout.

4.) There's a new set of tachometer LEDs on the wheel, though I've yet to play any game that supports them yet... It's a neat little feature, though, if it does as advertised.

5.) The G27 also has some more buttons on the steering wheel, which you can customize, of course.So how does it play?

VERY well, depending on the software!

Need for Speed: Shift PS3:

I first tried out Need for Speed: Shift on the Playstation 3, and was pleasantly surprised to see that no setup is needed, and the controls just work. In fact, it even shows you a picture of the wheel/pedals on the control screen (albeit just the G25, but still...). It's great to have the wheel work out of the box with no tinkering. THAT said, there's perhaps too much force feedback in Shift to be particularly comfortable. The faster you get, the more the wheel fights with you. At 120mph, it's very hard to keep the wheel straight. I've track-driven several times at near 150mph speeds at times, and I can safely say my steering wheel doesn't fight me in real life like it did in the game...

So, for ease of use with Shift, I'd say 5/10. It's just too hard to keep the wheel straight at relatively high speeds...

Gran Turismo: Prologue PS3:

NOW we're talking. None of the fighting I experienced in Need for Speed: Shift, and plenty of smooth corners and subtle force feedback. It's fair to say the force feedback is a tad muted in Prologue, but it's infinitely more comfortable to play than Shift, and a real joy to hit those apexes time and time again. 9/10.Overall, this wheel is excellent, but the pain of setting it up is just too much to ignore. It really is a cable nightmare. The wheel, pedals and shifter could easily be wireless by this point, meaning the only cable needed would be a power cable to the steering wheel for the force feedback to work. I suspect the inevitable G29 will remedy this, as the way the G27 currently works is a direct copy of the G25 which is 3 years old as of November, 2009.

Overall, though, a great wheel, if you can be bothered to go through the setting it up...!

4/5

Note: This wheel is for PC AND PS3.

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Product Description:
A simulator-grade racing wheel, the Logitech G27 Racing Wheel is designed to deliver the definitive sim racing experience for the PC and PLAYSTATION3. It features a powerful, dual-motor force feedback mechanism with exceptionally quiet helical gearing; a six-speed shifter with push-down reverse gear; integrated RPM/shift indicator LEDs; a comfortable 11-Inch leather-wrapped rim; and steel gas, brake, and clutch pedals.

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GTR Evolution Review

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(More customer reviews)When I saw GTR Evo at Amazon, I jumped at it thinking "Finally.An update to GTR2."I was wrong.

GTR2 is probably the best racing simulation game out there.It has all the detail and depth you might want from a simulation: the physics system is excellent, AI cars are appropriately aggressive and smart, car setup and configuration options are extremely detailed, and there is an excellent tutorial system that will educate you as a simulation racing driver.In short an excellent simulation and a must for any racing simulation fan.However, GTR2 is now several years old, so an update is possibly in order.This, unfortunately, is not it.Still, that's not all bad.

Compared to GTR2, Race and Race 07 were both good racing simulations but not designed to be as realistic as GTR2.GTR Evo is an extension of Simbin's Race and Race 07 game franchise.Like Race 07, GTR Evo takes the existing game and adds some new cars and some new tracks.(So, if you buy GTR Evo, you will have all the Race 07 game features, cars, and tracks.)Anyone who is familiar with the Race franchise will feel right at home with the menus, options, and general look and feel of the game.

The additions to this game are primarily GT-class cars such as Corvette, Aston Martin, Lister Storm, and others.(Conspicuously absent are Porsches and Ferraris, both prominent in GT racing.)The game also includes some "fantasy" cars.For example, the Audi R8 supercar is included, although Audi has not confirmed racing plans for it yet.Also there is a set of WTCC Extreme cars, that give the touring cars from Race 07 600+ horsepower, just in case you wanted to know what a 600 HP front-wheel driver was like.

The game adds some new tracks and combines them with the old ones.However, there is one addition here that, by itself, is worth the price of admission: The Nurburgring.The game includes the 'Ring in all its 16-mile, 8-minutes per lap glory.This is a challenging track; sweeping curves, fast sections that drop to slow corners, the famous Karussel; it's all here.If you think you're as good as Sabine Schmidt, "Queen of the Ring", here's your chance to find out.

Like Race, GTR Evo features car setup that, while not as detailed as GTR2, allows for customizing of your car's handling and performance characteristics.GTR Evo does carry over Race 07's great preconfigured files feature, that provide a good starting setup for each individual car for each track.

Drivability is very good and the physics engine gives good approximations of real-world driving characteristics (like front-wheel drive oversteer).Simbin has improved the sound effects, adding to the realism.The AI drivers are good if not quite as aggressive as you might like.

The traditional multiplayer, championship, and practice/time attack modes are still there, with the addition of a R-Arcade quick race mode.

Bottom line: This is a good simulation for those wanting a realistic racing sim.This is a good extension of the Race franchise and fans will not be disappointed.However, hard-core racing enthusiasts may want to stick to GTR2.

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Product Description:
GTR Evolution will contain 5 new classes containing a total of 30 new car models. First there are 3 classes of GT cars, each class with its own type of GT cars. In these classes you can find famous race cars such as the Corvette C6R, Aston Martin DBR9, BMW M3 GTR, Koenigsegg CCGT and Spyker C8 Spyder GT2R. Next to 3 GT classes there will be the WTCC Extreme cars. These are fictional designs of the vision of SimBin together with the WTCC Manufacturers on how the ultimate WTCC car could look. To finish it off there will be the Production Car Class, featuring the road going versions of the Audi R8, Dodge Viper SRT/10, Koenigsegg CCX and Gumpert Apollo.

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